[There's nothing shameful about being vulnerable to some ability you can't possibly defend against. He gets why Shepard wouldn't mind Corvo talking. What Garrus doesn't get is why Attano's admitting what he did. Of course Shepard beat the shit out of Attano. He'd just taken over her body.]
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
There's a line and you don't cross it by taking over someone's body, for fuck's sake! Not when it's not some sort of emergency. Not when a whole bunch of lives aren't hanging in the balance.
[ there's something to facing the fact you're a dog without a chain, and that if anyone had any decency, they'd put you down.
Not yet, is really, the only thing he cares about. When it's over ( it will never be over ), then Vakarian can have him, if that's what is demanded. ]
from: attano.corvo@cdc.org
I know, and I know them.
from: attano.corvo@cdc.org
It's no excuse, but I just misunderstood my commands. I thought I was meant to use what tools were available and to the best of my ability.
[ That's not -- all of it, but it's the one he was keeping publicly, hardly wants to admit that he's more scared of losing control around people he cares for and respects.
Bad enough Shepard knows he worries or thinks of her at all. ]
Look at things in a practical light. You staying alive means another fighter on our side means everyone has a better chance of survival. Nobody has anything to gain by killing another recruit.
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
Not even a gain in injuring another recruit. Worlds are just gonna keep getting harder until they're all a struggle to survive, I figure. You and I and everyone are gonna need everyone we've got.
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
If you can't have faith in other people, at least trust them to act in their own self-interest.
[ there's a vicious barb on the back of his tongue that comes with the words trust self interest. But this is not the time or place. Self interest ripped the city apart. ]
from: attano.corvo@cdc.org
I do.
[ whatever the void he means by that. ]
from: attano.corvo@cdc.org
Was there anything else you wished to ask about? Whilst I am in an honest mood.
No, there has never been anything physical between the Commander and myself. Given that she despises and loathes me, I do not think you ever need worry about that.
[Nothing physical, she despises and loathes Corvo... It's a leap and he might be wrong but he thinks he can take it.]
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
I'm not worried. She can take care of herself. If she starts dating someone who hurts her, they'll regret it. A lot. For a very short time. And that'll be all her doing.
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
Also, yes, bored. Nothing to shoot. Nothing creepily jumping from one side of the room to another. Didn't even have time to pack my cards before landing here.
[So Corvo had just been being creepy, then. Noted.]
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
Live by her side, you mean. We've had enough of death.
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
Depends on the children. Probably not the tunnel of love, but the bumper cars seem fun. Roller coaster too. Win them a prize at the games? They've got fish. Fish are good gifts.
Shepard can't keep fish alive either. Doesn't mean she doesn't like them for the few days they live. Besides. Someone reliant on household staff needs a challenge.
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
And everyone loves unhealthy food. Even grumps who say they don't. They're grumpy because they do and they can't eat it.
Maybe this Emily doesn't need a challenge, but she does need a reminder of something normal. Fish and pets are normal. Rulers need more of that.
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
Too many of them live apart and separate, with no idea of what life is like for most people. Leads to a lot of issues. Maybe the best thing you can do is get her something mundane. Like a fish.
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
Last thing any people group needs is a leader that's out of touch.
With respect, Master Vakarian I appreciate what you are trying to say and do, and I was trying to be tactful about the topic.
from: attano.corvo@cdc.org
She's just had to endure watching her mother die, told that my head had been cut off and her own kidnapping, which as you seem so inclined to wonder about her being out of touch with her people, they elected to lock her in a brothel house to hide her.
from: attano.corvo@cdc.org
I am not giving her something just to have it die on her in a week because her new pet cannot be looked after, if you take my meaning.
But you're gonna need to do something, because there's already a huge rift there and it's just gonna get worse. Clearly the people don't trust their leaders, and she's not gonna trust after that.
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
Could easily become an us versus them thing unless something changes, and mobs never change. Leaders have to take the higher road.
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
If you're not gonna give her a fish to help her find something she does have in common with her people, might wanna think about something else.
lbh after this conversation he's allowed to be fdsfadfdsa
[ ah, politics, how simply he slips back into deflection on topics he cannot say about. He did not become skilled at it, not like Jessamine or Burrows, or the effortless way Emperor Euhorn made rooms heel to him, at times.
But he'd learned about evading. ]
from: attano.corvo@cdc.org
I will take your words into consideration.
from: attano.corvo@cdc.org
It will a matter that is decided by her majesty and her majesty's parliament, no doubt, when the time comes.
So basically "yeah, thanks, not gonna do anything, other people can take care of it." That's gonna get you far.
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
Hey, maybe if you don't like what they do you can just possess one of them and make them into a new target for public ire. That couldn't possibly backfire.
[Sarcasm doesn't always translate well through text, but Garrus is trying his best to make it do so.]
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You took control of her and didn't even ask?
[There's nothing shameful about being vulnerable to some ability you can't possibly defend against. He gets why Shepard wouldn't mind Corvo talking. What Garrus doesn't get is why Attano's admitting what he did. Of course Shepard beat the shit out of Attano. He'd just taken over her body.]
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
There's a line and you don't cross it by taking over someone's body, for fuck's sake! Not when it's not some sort of emergency. Not when a whole bunch of lives aren't hanging in the balance.
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You are correct, I made apology to her.
[ and there's nothing to say in defense of it -- so he just doesn't. ]
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Why did you think that was fine in the first place?
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... It wasn't fighting. I prefer it when I want to leave someone unharmed.
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There's a dozen ways to take someone down without harming them.
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
Maybe just a half-dozen. Are you saying you don't know others? You, who can move from one place to another in the blink of an eye?
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Not yet, is really, the only thing he cares about. When it's over ( it will never be over ), then Vakarian can have him, if that's what is demanded. ]
from: attano.corvo@cdc.org
I know, and I know them.
from: attano.corvo@cdc.org
It's no excuse, but I just misunderstood my commands. I thought I was meant to use what tools were available and to the best of my ability.
[ That's not -- all of it, but it's the one he was keeping publicly, hardly wants to admit that he's more scared of losing control around people he cares for and respects.
Bad enough Shepard knows he worries or thinks of her at all. ]
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FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
And if you get another test and it's not life-threatening, are you still gonna do it? Just take over someone else?
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
Or are you gonna think and not leap to doing that? Because you say unharmed, but taking over their body isn't not harming them.
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Then, I should say humans don't die.
from: attano.corvo@cdc.org
I am trying to... be better than that. If that's your question.
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That's basically my question, yeah.
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
We've all gotta work together in different ways on this ship. Taking over an ally's body is never gonna go well.
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
Definitely not gonna inspire trust.
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I learned that lesson quickly.
from: attano.corvo@cdc.org
Trust in others isn't a think I do well or easily.
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Why am I not surprised?
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
Look at things in a practical light. You staying alive means another fighter on our side means everyone has a better chance of survival. Nobody has anything to gain by killing another recruit.
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
Not even a gain in injuring another recruit. Worlds are just gonna keep getting harder until they're all a struggle to survive, I figure. You and I and everyone are gonna need everyone we've got.
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
If you can't have faith in other people, at least trust them to act in their own self-interest.
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from: attano.corvo@cdc.org
I do.
[ whatever the void he means by that. ]
from: attano.corvo@cdc.org
Was there anything else you wished to ask about? Whilst I am in an honest mood.
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Thought, once, that there was something between you two. You and Shepard. Was I wrong? While you're being honest and all.
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from: attano.corvo@cdc.org
Are you so bored?
from: attano.corvo@cdc.org
No, there has never been anything physical between the Commander and myself. Given that she despises and loathes me, I do not think you ever need worry about that.
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So it was one-sided.
[Nothing physical, she despises and loathes Corvo... It's a leap and he might be wrong but he thinks he can take it.]
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
I'm not worried. She can take care of herself. If she starts dating someone who hurts her, they'll regret it. A lot. For a very short time. And that'll be all her doing.
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
Also, yes, bored. Nothing to shoot. Nothing creepily jumping from one side of the room to another. Didn't even have time to pack my cards before landing here.
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Nothing of the sort, my loyalty is sworn and given to another.
from: attano.corvo@cdc.org
Besides, she doesn't need a protector, she needs someone who will die by her side.
from: attano.corvo@cdc.org
I cannot help you there, I am busy.
from: attano.corvo@cdc.org
Do you know any of these things that are acceptable for children and that they find fun?
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FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
Live by her side, you mean. We've had enough of death.
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
Depends on the children. Probably not the tunnel of love, but the bumper cars seem fun. Roller coaster too. Win them a prize at the games? They've got fish. Fish are good gifts.
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
And there's food. Young love food.
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from: attano.corvo@cdc.org
She won't be able to keep the fish alive without her household staff.
[ Ten year olds. He loves her, but he knows what her attention span is like sometimes. There's the exasperated sigh on his end thinking about it. ]
from: attano.corvo@cdc.org
The food all looks ... very unhealthy. I suppose that means she will love it.
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Shepard can't keep fish alive either. Doesn't mean she doesn't like them for the few days they live. Besides. Someone reliant on household staff needs a challenge.
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
And everyone loves unhealthy food. Even grumps who say they don't. They're grumpy because they do and they can't eat it.
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She can't keep them alive? Why not?
from: attano.corvo@cdc.org
But the last thing Emily needs is more challenges in this life, or... reminders. She is to be Empress, she will have a lifetime of challenges.
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You'd have to ask Shepard.
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
Maybe this Emily doesn't need a challenge, but she does need a reminder of something normal. Fish and pets are normal. Rulers need more of that.
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
Too many of them live apart and separate, with no idea of what life is like for most people. Leads to a lot of issues. Maybe the best thing you can do is get her something mundane. Like a fish.
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
Last thing any people group needs is a leader that's out of touch.
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With respect, Master Vakarian I appreciate what you are trying to say and do, and I was trying to be tactful about the topic.
from: attano.corvo@cdc.org
She's just had to endure watching her mother die, told that my head had been cut off and her own kidnapping, which as you seem so inclined to wonder about her being out of touch with her people, they elected to lock her in a brothel house to hide her.
from: attano.corvo@cdc.org
I am not giving her something just to have it die on her in a week because her new pet cannot be looked after, if you take my meaning.
I am sorry he is such a judgey jerk
But you're gonna need to do something, because there's already a huge rift there and it's just gonna get worse. Clearly the people don't trust their leaders, and she's not gonna trust after that.
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
Could easily become an us versus them thing unless something changes, and mobs never change. Leaders have to take the higher road.
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
If you're not gonna give her a fish to help her find something she does have in common with her people, might wanna think about something else.
lbh after this conversation he's allowed to be fdsfadfdsa
But he'd learned about evading. ]
from: attano.corvo@cdc.org
I will take your words into consideration.
from: attano.corvo@cdc.org
It will a matter that is decided by her majesty and her majesty's parliament, no doubt, when the time comes.
LOL
So basically "yeah, thanks, not gonna do anything, other people can take care of it." That's gonna get you far.
FROM: vakarian.garrus@cdc.org
Hey, maybe if you don't like what they do you can just possess one of them and make them into a new target for public ire. That couldn't possibly backfire.
[Sarcasm doesn't always translate well through text, but Garrus is trying his best to make it do so.]
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